Wishful Thinking...

[Louise]

So many great points Louise. Love the idea of a workplace comedy and how it can open up different pairings and interactions. Could not agree about the sitting around the apartment. I'm so done with it. I thought it worked on Seinfeld, but these writers are not on that level.

There will never be another Seinfeld. It is special. I also really respect Jerry for refusing to do a 10th season. Of course, he was already mega-rich at that point, but it shows some integrity.

(I'm not super-keen on S9 or the Finale, but it never truly jumped the shark.)

It's hard to compare TBBT to other shows. IMO it was always a bit more cartoony and whimsical and self-consciously "wacky" than other recent sitcoms, which makes the turn towards "serious" storylines all the harder to swallow...

People who don't understand Seinfeld seem to be sort of threatened and insulted by it, in a similar manner to people who don't understand/appreciate the early seasons of TBBT. Canons hate it when you mention Seinfeld in a debate.

Also, while there's a lot of arguing/screeching/yelling on Seinfeld, IMO it's so exagerrated that it has no sting and it rarely becomes truly unpleasant or unsettling. IMO those characters are reactive, not aggressive. They're sort of at the mercy of life's random mishaps and small injustices, and if they're hostile or angry, they're behaving that way out of frustration. Whereas, I find something like "Everybody Loves Raymond", or the conflicts in later seasons of TBBT, to be truly unpleasant and uncomfortable.