10-19-2014, 12:57 PM
(10-19-2014, 12:06 AM)ricardo shillyshally Wrote:Yes I suppose you could say that Howard is at least being honest. Leonard is very devious at getting what he wants, and has no loyalty to anyone, bast**d! Something the show explores(for comedy purposes) is the relationship between the characters and their parents. I have known men who carried on living with their mothers too long. They are like pudgy adolescents; they act like adolescents towards women. Going straight to another woman doesn't help, they do need to break free, become independent, and grow. Even Penny needs to break free of her father; counselling not alcohol. Not another man like her father either(because that relationship will mirror the former). Actually I think once people reach eighteen, they need to draw a boundary, and stand up to their meddling parents!
The point I'm making is, he's not a pervert. "Pervert" implies one has desires that are very abnormal and harmful. One could argue that the way he talks to women is offensive, but his intentions are very simple and straightforward. Even his fantasies are sort of naive and cute. To me, "pervert" would imply that one's desires have an element of something violent or illegal, like pursuing underage girls, for example. It's not like H is going up to 13-year-olds and exposing himself, or grabbing/groping people.
I'm not saying I want 8 seasons of H. making a pass at Penny. Those moments are actually kind of cringey. But the "overly sexual Howard" jokes had already tapered off a bit by the end of S2, and that's long before Bernadette. They should've maintained him at that level.
And I, personally, would not give a crap about any of the "shocking revelations" mentioned in SNC, nor would I be upset like B.