09-26-2014, 02:21 PM
So, now we have Stuart living at Howard's Mom's house...when we could've had...drumroll, please...Howard living at his mom's house??? Where do I get these ideas?? 
It's really weird how they (TPTB) keep destroying things and then creating replicas/imitations/re-enactments of them. Stuart-Raj instead of Howard-Raj. S/P moments re-created with Shamy. (I cannot personally recall these moments, but I've heard they exist, so someone can help me out and specify, here.)
If Penny no longer works at the CCF, where will they hang out? Will they always, always, always be at the apartment? Apparently so. Yeah, that's a step forward. Not.
No more Oversexed Howard, but Oversexed Amy is just peachy, or characters who are genuinely perverted, like this Emily person who is turned on by violence? Yeah, that's a brilliant match for Raj, who is gentle and refined, or at least has pretensions of being so.
Don't get me wrong, I like Stuart, and I'm fine with him getting a storyline, but...they keep discarding things and then giving us the New Coke version. Why???
If these ideas work, if these concepts are good, then why wouldn't you **keep** them, instead of recycling them and getting diminished returns?
On a somewhat related note, they claim that the characters and the show itself have grown and matured, yet the humor and the language are more vulgar than ever. There was *some* vulgarity in the earlier seasons, penis jokes and what-not, but not as much, it seems to me.
It's the hypocrisy that gets me. TPTB want to have it both ways: they want to claim they're presenting this beautiful, meaningful storyline about personal betterment and growth and maturity, about love and friendship, and then they want their breast jokes and shit jokes. They blow hot and cold with the same breath. It makes their preachiness and their moralizing very hard to take.
So, Howard's corny innuendos like "hit that thang!" were offensive and perverted and gross, but let's have all these jokes about spitting and diarrhea and STDs?
S2 Howard: "Penny, let me take this opportunity to point out that you are looking particularly ravishing today."
Wow, so offensive, so threatening, this guy should be locked up.
If Sheldon said that to Amy, the Canons would be weeping with joy. There are probably women who would cut off a limb just to hear a man say that, to them. He's almost...courtly, almost gentlemanly. I bet he talks that way even when he's at a strip club. Yet TPTB would have us believe that he looked at Penny and said something like "Hey, bitch, show us your tits."
S5 Amy: Says that she enjoys going to the gynecologist, et cetera, et cetera. Jokes about "diseased genitalia", etc.
I guess my point is, what's up with this idea that the old versions of certain jokes were offensive, and the new versions aren't, even though they're actually way, way more vulgar?
And what's up with discarding/eliminating certain elements of the show, labeling them as obsolete and stigmatizing them, then reincarnating them in a lesser version?
ETA: I dare some intrepid fanfic writer to take some of the sexual things Howard said/did in the early seasons, and subtly incorporate them into a Shamy story where Sheldon says them to Amy, and watch the reviews roll in about how sweet and lovely and romantic this is. I might even do it, myself
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It's really weird how they (TPTB) keep destroying things and then creating replicas/imitations/re-enactments of them. Stuart-Raj instead of Howard-Raj. S/P moments re-created with Shamy. (I cannot personally recall these moments, but I've heard they exist, so someone can help me out and specify, here.)
If Penny no longer works at the CCF, where will they hang out? Will they always, always, always be at the apartment? Apparently so. Yeah, that's a step forward. Not.
No more Oversexed Howard, but Oversexed Amy is just peachy, or characters who are genuinely perverted, like this Emily person who is turned on by violence? Yeah, that's a brilliant match for Raj, who is gentle and refined, or at least has pretensions of being so.
Don't get me wrong, I like Stuart, and I'm fine with him getting a storyline, but...they keep discarding things and then giving us the New Coke version. Why???
If these ideas work, if these concepts are good, then why wouldn't you **keep** them, instead of recycling them and getting diminished returns?
On a somewhat related note, they claim that the characters and the show itself have grown and matured, yet the humor and the language are more vulgar than ever. There was *some* vulgarity in the earlier seasons, penis jokes and what-not, but not as much, it seems to me.
It's the hypocrisy that gets me. TPTB want to have it both ways: they want to claim they're presenting this beautiful, meaningful storyline about personal betterment and growth and maturity, about love and friendship, and then they want their breast jokes and shit jokes. They blow hot and cold with the same breath. It makes their preachiness and their moralizing very hard to take.
So, Howard's corny innuendos like "hit that thang!" were offensive and perverted and gross, but let's have all these jokes about spitting and diarrhea and STDs?
S2 Howard: "Penny, let me take this opportunity to point out that you are looking particularly ravishing today."
Wow, so offensive, so threatening, this guy should be locked up.
If Sheldon said that to Amy, the Canons would be weeping with joy. There are probably women who would cut off a limb just to hear a man say that, to them. He's almost...courtly, almost gentlemanly. I bet he talks that way even when he's at a strip club. Yet TPTB would have us believe that he looked at Penny and said something like "Hey, bitch, show us your tits."
S5 Amy: Says that she enjoys going to the gynecologist, et cetera, et cetera. Jokes about "diseased genitalia", etc.
I guess my point is, what's up with this idea that the old versions of certain jokes were offensive, and the new versions aren't, even though they're actually way, way more vulgar?
And what's up with discarding/eliminating certain elements of the show, labeling them as obsolete and stigmatizing them, then reincarnating them in a lesser version?
ETA: I dare some intrepid fanfic writer to take some of the sexual things Howard said/did in the early seasons, and subtly incorporate them into a Shamy story where Sheldon says them to Amy, and watch the reviews roll in about how sweet and lovely and romantic this is. I might even do it, myself