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RE: 7.16 The Table Polarization - Tuesday Pajamas - 02-28-2014 (02-28-2014, 10:11 PM)queenoftheDales Wrote: Its a sad day in the Shenny HQ world when our beloved Sheldon is being hated. How can tptb do this to him? And Penny for that matter. She is really starting to be intolerable. All this for the benefit for a couple of beta characters that wouldn't be missed if they disappeared. Now we get to watch AFF help him "mature" into a better person when he was already there. They are making him boring. Removing all the lovely quirks like his honesty and lack of guile, and exaggerating the negative ones until they are no longer funny. A perfect character like Sheldon had to be handled with extreme caution but they have just taken a hacksaw to him. RE: 7.16 The Table Polarization - Moonbase - 03-01-2014 (02-28-2014, 01:55 PM)Major Gripe Wrote: What an incredibly…weird episode. On the one hand you had an aspect of Vintage Sheldon present in the form of Super Villain Sheldon (with a few extra Jiminy-isms thrown in)….but only the superficial mannerisms were there, because ultimately he was manipulated left right and centre, so it looked like a child playing Super Villain dress-up. Yeah they tried to throw us off with the science quote in the beginning, which was great but then Leonard took the mickey out of him and what followed was dig after dig. To hear him say he'd become a more affectionate person because of Amy was unbearable. He's not affectionate tbh I wouldn't mind that so much but I just hate the way Amy is constantly being labelled as his great saviour. Last season was saved for me by 43 but so far this season hasn't had a single great nerd episode. Guest stars don't count. RE: 7.16 The Table Polarization - Nutz - 03-01-2014 Completely agree with everything you said Gripe, it was both thrilling and disheartening to see glimpses of vintage Sheldon. It makes me sick to see how Amy played him in this episode, talk about Stockholm syndrome. Our beautiful mined genius is almost totally brainwashed now and not a single person cared, not even his supposed "sister" Plus side of the episode? No Howard's mothers voice from Bernie, no drunk jokes about Penny although her clothes were just terrible. RE: 7.16 The Table Polarization - Idle Miscreant - 03-01-2014 (03-01-2014, 05:10 AM)FlyingMonkey Wrote: You've GOT to post this in Orangeland just to see the heads explode! My name's Major Gripe, not General Idiot or Captain Kamikaze... RE: 7.16 The Table Polarization - Toad - 03-01-2014 I really need to watch the episode again (if I can stomach it) before I can assimilate any coherent thoughts. Honestly, my mind just seemed to waft away during the truly awful bits and, like Penny, I wasn't really listening, I only saw jaws moving up and down. So now it's like trying to remember a dream. ANYway...small thing, but did everybody see where they were going as soon as Sheldon uttered "nary an argument?" Raise your hands if you knew Leonard's "suffered in silence" bit was about to be recycled. "NARY?" RE: 7.16 The Table Polarization - Nutz - 03-01-2014 Sheldon mentioned Penny's genitals again in this episode, that's like the fourth time this season. He seems completely obsessed with her pink parts. RE: 7.16 The Table Polarization - FranEssi - 03-01-2014 Everyone has said what was there to be said about this episode. Just want to add that the desk and the rest of those stuff were Sheldon's (science) belongings and he had every right not to want others to make decisions about his belongings and about getting rid of or moving them. I don't get how Amy has made Sheldon a more affectionate, open-minded person. I just don't see it. Sheldon was too childish and dumb in this episode, but it was good to at least see him try to break up with Amy. I didn't like Penny giving Amy 'heads up' about Sheldon wanting to break up with her. She shouldn't have interfered IMO. I wonder how Amy would have reacted to Sheldon trying to break up with her if she hadn't been 'warned' beforehand. On the whole, the episode was quite boring and unfunny, and when I watch the show and the characters these days, I keep wondering why and how I became a fan in the first place. I think some of the members of this forum are absolutely right and the wise thing to do is to stick with the early seasons and to pretend that seasons 5-7 never happened, or are some sort of spin-off. *goes off to re-watch The Adhesive Duck Deficiency* RE: 7.16 The Table Polarization - Toad - 03-01-2014 Ah Raj, if nothing else your Angry Indian Guy shtick still makes me laugh. A bit. Okay, I finally got to see the episode a second time, and it really isn't that bad. It's all about puppets and furniture, right? I mean, I guess all fictional characters are puppets of a sort. The trick comes in convincing us (the audience) that there are no strings. Unfortunately for those of us here, we can all but see the writers' hands as the characters do a herky-jerky dance through one contrived and ham-fisted setup after another. It's then unsettling and mildly surrealistic to watch some of these puppet people assume the role of puppeteer themselves. (I wonder if I can find a gif representation of what I just wrote?) This'll do... Jedi Amy was the most blatant example of the M word, but let's face it, there was quite a bit of string-pulling going on all around, from Penny urging Leonard to get a table SHE liked, to Bernadette staging an intervention, and finally, even Sheldon getting in on the act when he starts tugging on the group's heartstrings. What *I* found particularly loathsome about all of it though was how each of the offenders decided THEY knew what was best and weren't above using sly trickery to get what THEY wanted. (I'm sure that sentence isn't grammatically correct, but I don't care.) The rampant me-ism of these people is very offputting to say the least. So...a table. But WHAT a table, y'all! Before it was a lightly used return to Ikea it was the outward manifestation of one man's defiance, it was the catalyst for a discussion about change, it was the bridge for a man and a woman to unite against a common enemy, it was a threat to the mealtime camaraderie. AND...it comfortably seated seven people. All kidding aside though, it occurs to me that this is not the first time a piece of furniture has become a focal point - the paint-besmirched cushion, the Brobdingnagian desk, and Penny's chair of death have all inflamed Sheldon's various neuroses. And so now we have (or had rather) the, what?, table of change? Erm, good luck furnishing that three bedroom ranch, Amy. You're gonna need it. RE: 7.16 The Table Polarization - Trust No One - 03-01-2014 (03-01-2014, 03:57 PM)FranEssi Wrote: Everyone has said what was there to be said about this episode. Pretty low for Penny to be a little sneak. Worry about your own lousy relationship. (03-01-2014, 11:33 AM)Dsnynutz Wrote: Sheldon mentioned Penny's genitals again in this episode, that's like the fourth time this season. He seems completely obsessed with her pink parts. Cannot be. He only thinks of Penny as a sister. RE: 7.16 The Table Polarization - FlyingMonkey - 03-01-2014 (03-01-2014, 03:57 PM)FranEssi Wrote: Everyone has said what was there to be said about this episode. That's right out of Shamyland. In their view Sheldon was a "selfish prick" before Amy and she is now shaping him into a caring sensitive human being. Aside from the creepiness of Amy, my main problem with that is IT'S NOT FUNNY!!! Vintage Sheldon was funny, clever & witty, boyfriend Sheldon is boring and pathetic. I wondered that too. If she hadn't had time to prepare it might have turned out different. Thank you Penny. |