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RE: What fresh hell is this? - S9 - Idle Miscreant - 08-22-2015

Spoilerly things, if anyone cares;

Mary will apparently be turning up in the tag scene of the first episode. Presumably to talk to Sheldon about his sudden bizarre penchant for conventional tokens of matrimony.

Why a man who spent most of this relationship either bored or sulking (except for The Simpering of Season 8. Like The Crying of Lot 49, but less subtle and philosophical) suddenly wants to get married, is beyond me.

Penny's father will be turning up in the third episode.


RE: What fresh hell is this? - S9 - Tuesday Pajamas - 08-22-2015

(08-22-2015, 08:30 AM)Idle Miscreant Wrote: I have found the behaviour of the demented shippers utterly intolerable. Both over this harmless scene and that ONE Sheldon/Penny episode last season.
It's the last vindictive straw, and I've completely lost respect for a considerable portion of the so-called canon fandom. Over the years there's been hysterics, witch-hunting, paranoia and insults to the fans whenever Sheldon & Penny have an even faintly ambiguous scene (ie, any one that isn't based around Shamy or Lenny) and then a violent swing over to gloating and jeering whenever there's good news for the couple they happen to identify with.

Although I've never seen a Lenny or Shamy shipper say they identify with Penny or Sheldon. So it seems bloody obvious to me that the canon shippers are essentially rooting for Leonard and Amy, and the Shenny folk are rooting for Sheldon and Penny. The fact that the Shenny fans and Sheldon Purists, the Sheldon and Penny identifiers in real life, don't LIKE either Amy or Leonard speaks volumes about how inaccurate those show relationships are.

Another thing that baffles me - A rather prurient matter - Sheldon (or rather Jim Parsons) and Penny are overwhelmingly the characters that people fantasize about. A few people are (presumably) fantasizing about Leonard, or Amy, but certainly not in any sort of numbers that are going to make even a tiny dent in the vast monolith of people obsessing over Sheldon and Penny. So if it's alright to fantasize about them interacting with your Mary-Sues of Amy and Leonard, why the bejaysus isn't it alright to imagine them interacting with EACH OTHER?

But yes, the idiodyssey of the fandom. I presume it's like this in other fandoms, but thank god I don't belong to any others. Although I can't see Blackadder fans getting their knickers in a twist because Blackadder's spending more time with Prince George than Baldrick. Although they never turned Blackadder into an idiot either, replaced his sharp personality with a goofy schmuck and shackled him to a woman hellbent on breaking him down into "boyfriend" material (now husband material) like everybody else. Nice that Sheldon becomes like everybody else in the end. Nice that he knuckles under and discovers that absolutely everything he ever believed in or stood for was wrong, and that romance is in fact more important than science, or one's passions, work, friendships, private quests...No, no wait! Not nice. Abysmal.

The one woman that might have worked for Sheldon (again, as I always stress - If they HAD to give him a bloody relationship) was Penny, simply because they wouldn't have had to change his personality. Their sparring matches, coupled with the odd moment of tenderness, works perfectly well as a relationship as it is. It would take the smallest nudge to shift it into that arena.

Penny doesn't WANT romance and sappy sentiment. She doesn't need constant affection. The one thing she WOULD want is sex, but then so does bloody AFF, so there's no difference. They've happily dropped Sheldon's germ phobia, so I presume there's no barrier there. And Penny's a "big ole five" so the whole thing would be handled expertly, with no hang-ups, and with no cringey toddler-esque "mommy and daddy kisses" talk, and simultaneous horrific BUILD-UP to when Sheldon gets sacrificed at the virginal altar. It's monstrous, placing so much emphasis on what was such an inconsequential part of his original character's nature. Sheldon was NEVER about sex or romance. Now the biggest focus of the show seems to be "When will he have sex with AFF? WHY won't he have sex with AFF? AFF deserves sex! And love! And marriage!" etc.

They should have done it years ago, if they were going to do it at all. Now it just looks unbelievable. And it'll be forced when it happens.
Sheldon's a passionate character (or was, for the first 3 years certainly) - a tepid, sticky, kindergarten boy/girl relationship is NOT what his nature called for, or deserved.

Anyroad, it's exhausting. After this unusual scene (if they keep it in) I'll go back to my usual avoidance of what has essentially become for me a show devoted to destroying my idol.

I'm HOPING I'm wrong! Always bloody hoping they'll set Sheldon free.

As for the paranoid/witch-hunting members of the canon fandom;

There are bugger all Sheldon/Penny scenes now, dreams or otherwise. Let folk enjoy what is an increasingly rare pairing, and the last remnant of the early years, and go back to planning your goddamn fictional weddings for your fictional characters.

This post is so epic and needed in this fandon right now, I thought I'd bump it. Blossom

I too, am sick of the crazy hate directed at Shennys just because the writers put Sheldon and Penny together occasionally, even in a 'joke' scene. I'm sick of Shennys being told we are delusional and the blame for all this. We didn't ask for it and Shennys rarely harrass the writers, that hasn't happened since 2010. They get the odd innocent request but nothing like they claim we are guilty of.


RE: What fresh hell is this? - S9 - Ratman77 - 08-23-2015

(08-20-2015, 08:53 AM)Idle Miscreant Wrote: Ratman, I personally find your vivid use of English rather brilliant.
It's perfectly comprehensible, but also of an inspired structure.
Why, it's almost Rabelaisian sir!
Makes for wonderful reading.
WineWine

Hello “Idle Miscreant” Well, what can I say. Like by the opinion of “Kim24” I had blushed when I saw your repley. I am of course pleased that you like my “style”, but….. I have to admit something. I could not write my posts without the help of an internet-translator.Sad I know that I just ruining me a great compliment, but if I had not mentioned it, I would feel like a cheaterConfused. Crazy, isn’t it?
See you soon again here. Until then: Shenny FTW!


RE: What fresh hell is this? - S9 - Shenny306 - 08-24-2015

Even in a joke scene Penny and Sheldon have more chemistry then Amy and Sheldon and Leonard and Penny combined. That is what the cannon shippers are afraid of.


RE: What fresh hell is this? - S9 - Ratman77 - 08-26-2015

(08-24-2015, 01:03 AM)Shenny306 Wrote: Even in a joke scene Penny and Sheldon have more chemistry then Amy and Sheldon and Leonard and Penny combined. That is what the cannon shippers are afraid of.

I do not have to add anything!!!Big Grin
On yours probably
WineWineWine


RE: What fresh hell is this? - S9 - Tuesday Pajamas - 08-26-2015

*Spoilers*

9.03 The Bachelor Party Corrosion

The guys kidnap Leonard and take him to Mexico for a belated bachelor weekend. Of course they get a flat tire and can’t fix it, even though Howard is an engineer. Go figure! The old trope that men are suddenly incompetent without women is alive and well. I don't know if this will be funny, or just as patronsing as it has been of late on this show.

The girls have a bachelorette party where Amy makes penis cookies Undecided Penny telling her dad she's married. Amy telling her mother she broke up with Sheldon. Amy needs a shag but then they couldn't keep using this gag could they? She would like a normal boyfriend but instead of giving her this, they will humiliate Sheldon. This season may be even more unwatchable for Sheldon fans than the last was.


RE: What fresh hell is this? - S9 - Kimk26 - 08-26-2015

(08-21-2015, 03:08 AM)Tuesday Pajamas Wrote: Yeah I know our Shenny kiss changes nothing on the show but damn it!!! I'm going to enjoy it because we won't get anything else. TongueHeart Its ours and we Shennys get so little now. I just pray its not taken out because the canons are all over Prady on social media, angry and cursing at him and the show. But we'll see. I just WANT that scene.

PJ, I think he would leave it in there full BECAUSE of how these canons are all over him lately--at least I would.. Wink


RE: What fresh hell is this? - S9 - Kimk26 - 08-26-2015

Okay, as I've been MIA for the last week and just getting caught up on all the hoopla/goings-on, I shall now try to say a little of my piece (in other words..my opinions and far-out theories!) on Season 9 so far. It may come out a little jumbled, as there's much to comment on and it's a little all-over-the-board..


1. The Leonard/Penny Wedding:

First of all..I have a thought about the Lenny marriage. Part of me feels pretty strongly that after episode 3--despite the consensus online that they'll soon be setting up housekeeping--that the exact opposite will take place, and that we'll be seeing the deconstructing of the marriage. I don't see them divorcing, actually, 'cos that's pretty heavy, and, yeah, I don't think the show really wants to get that weighed down after all this. The reason I don't believe they're going to have Penny and Leonard settle down is because..well, in sitcoms, it seems to be a general rule that once the main couple comes together in matrimony and settles down, it's the beginning of the end/doesn't leave the protagonists much to strive for in the love and romance department. And I kind of think in stories, that's the big thing the audience really gets behind. We're not all that interested in domesticity (case in point: Howard and Bernadette.) We want to struggle along with the couple, root for them. With marriage and settling down, there's no more room to root. Comprende? (Note: In the case of H/B, I make an exception. Howard should have remained single. That's where his greatest value was, as an actor and as a character. Single Howard is hysterically funny. And resourceful! And surprising! Now, he's henpecked and dull, and pretty much directionless, because he lost his purpose altogether as a character. They just try to 'fit him in' now, it seems. Whatta' waste. And remember how he used to be happy? Every time he'd be constructing some new ploy to get a woman, you could SEE the glee on his face, as he rubbed his hands together and got to work! And as a side benefit: it gave Raj some neat stuff to do, too, as his sidekick/wingman. Do we see that kind of joy and relish in him these days? Most times--if we even see him at all--he's either slumped and resigned, or irritated about the life-suckingly-boring situation with Stuart. Both men look like they pretty much want to hang themselves in the garage. Geez..)

Getting back to L/P, though.. I said that I believe their marriage is going to be deconstructed. For the reason above, but also, because, as the canons are pointing out..let's face it, they were given a really shitty/implausible wedding. As we've learned through the spoilers, while the gang is watching the wedding via Skype, the pronunciation and kiss and everything were completely missed because of Sheldon and Amy's argument drowning it all out. If the show really meant for L/P to have an actual wedding, it would not be done this way AT ALL. The gang (and audience/viewers) would have seen and heard the entire ceremony. So this seems to me to be something they'd want to do over/do justice at some later point (if at all).

The way I think they could avoid a dee-vorce? Haha, this is the good one. And yeah, it's a theory. And yeah, it's far-out. But remember a few seasons back..at Thanksgiving at Howard's mom's.. And somehow it came out about Penny being married to Zack..that, back when they were dating, they'd been in Vegas and thought they'd had a "pretend wedding", only for Penny to realize when it's explained to her that the weddings there are real, etc. So, because Leonard was so upset about it, she invited Zack to join them so he could sign annulment papers and get it all over with. Well..if there's ANY possibility that those papers never got filed.. I mean, it was never made clear who filed them. I would assume Leonard would be chomping at the bit to do it. But it really wouldn't be his place. So that would leave either Penny or Zack. And, as much as I love the guy, he's really not the sharpest tool in the shed. So he may not be able to be counted on for such an important task. So then yeah, that would mean it was up to Penny. And I mean, let's face it, if she wasn't even aware that she'd been married in the first place, I really wouldn't put it past her to let the filing of these papers slip her mind. This is not to put her down, mind you. But it's kind of Penny's thing to not always be on top of stuff. And also..with her commitment issues..I'm still not convinced she felt ready for marriage with Leonard. At least subconsciously. Leonard may have reminded her left and right to file those papers after the holiday..yeah, I can see that. But a part of me wonders if Penny subconsciously sabotaged any future commitment with Leonard by failing to mail in those papers, and then forgetting about it. I mean, she's been pretty obviously in denial every step of the way with this relationship with Leonard. When people are in denial, you just don't know what they're capable (or incapable) of.

The reason I bring up this theory at all is because..it just seems weird to me that it had even become a plot point in the first place. Have any of you ever thought of that? I could see the writers creating this scenario as a kind of foreshadowing of the future. Because, I know it was comedic as a situation for Penny. But..why even go there? I think it's possible that, as much as Molaro insists the characters write themselves/lead their own story, with the writers really not knowing where it's going (yeah, right)..I think it's entirely possible there's outlines and story arcs put in place ahead of time. Even as much as a few years ahead. Especially as the idea of how to get Penny and Leonard married has probably been something the writers have been trying to figure out for years. It's gotta be a constant objective on the table. So yeah, I could see them writing in some foreshadowing. Sure. It'd be a cool idea to try, anyway.

One might point out, though, the improbability of using something that took place in a previous season in future storylines, I give you case in point: Leonard's kiss at sea two years ago. Yes, they mined something from two seasons back to bring about a wrench in the works NOW. You see how they did that?

And now that I think of it..bringing Zack into the episode, as well. Calling in a character/actor, after so many years absence..yeah, it was way-cool to see him--(did I mention I LOVE Zack? That dude is funny as HELL..)--but yeah, them going as far as having Penny INVITE an ex to her Thanksgiving celebration with her current boyfriend and his friends, and him showing UP.. They had to make a show of them having the papers and him signing them. Is it just me that this is a whole lotta' bother (though it gave the episode some great laffs) to rectify a situation that could have been handled off-screen/at another time. I just feel somehow like us seeing those papers held some meaning. And without Zack there, there would have been no reason to actually physically see them. But then, the mailing of them was handled--presumably--off-screen. Just kind of weird to me.

And now that we're talking weird.. Now that I think of it..how plausible is it that Penny wouldn't know she was married? I mean, she's not a genius academically like the guys. But we know she's smart in many other ways. About people, for sure. And..she sure has given Sheldon a run for his money. MANY TIMES. It's why he actually respects her. He trusts her intuitiveness and insights. And she couldn't hold down this pharmaceutical sales job if she didn't have the smarts. So, this all establishes that she's no dumb bunny. A dumb bunny would go to Vegas and assume the wedding chapels hold fake weddings. Penny's smarter than that. Way smarter. Hmm.. This is not to say that the writers/PTB suddenly think Penny's dumb again (as in early season one). But..bending the rules a little can make an excellent plot device..

And lastly (as long as we're talking 'weird')..the reason the whole Vegas wedding remembrance came up in the first place? Because it being Thanksgiving, Penny was reminded of the time she and Zack spent their Thanksgiving in Vegas. Pardon me if I may be grasping here, but..who the hell goes to Las Vegas on Thanksgiving!?! Sounds, again, to me like a bit of plot-contrivance theater. A rather implausible means-to-an-end, no?

So yeah, that's my forecast for Leonard and Penny. Smile Far-out, but possible. Y'gotta admit, it would be an easy-out for this marriage/sham of a wedding. Not too messy. Except, Leonard would probably be furious. But then, Penny could just shoot back at him, "well..you kissed another woman!" Yes, these two have a bright future..

(Weird side-note: As much as I love Sheldon and Penny together, I really wouldn't be all that opposed to her ending up with Zack. I mean, if it came down to him or Leonard..God, yes, I would have her pick Zack. He's tall enough for her, handsome, and likeable. Three things that, in my opinion, Leonard is unfortunately NOT.)

2. The Sheldon/Amy thing:

I never felt comfortable nor warmed to AFF as a partner for Sheldon. Mainly for the reason that she's been so thoroughly instrumental in the deconstruction of his character. Apparently they've broken up (well, she's broken up with him..) All I can honestly say is I'm glad, and hope they don't reconcile in future episodes. I've always contended that she was never a truly viable mate for him, in that I've felt the writers brought her on as a distraction for Sheldon in the L/P/S triangle. Essentially, a plot device that got away from them. And while we're at it, an exercise in the writing of dysfunction in relationships. In that respect I do feel somewhat bad for the character, if that makes any sense. Because, without Sheldon, I really don't see what use there is for her to be around. Prime example: it made no sense to me whatsoever that Howard and Bernadette welcomed her to watch L/P's wedding, while leaving Sheldon--literally--out in the cold. That was really low, inappropriate, inconsiderate, baffling, etc, etc. I mean, Sheldon was their friend first. And Leonard's best friend and roommate. If anyone had more of a right to be there.. Again, I say, geez..

3. The Shenny Kiss:

I think it's fabulous. I don't care if it's Leonard's dream, or the canons need to downplay it's significance (the fact that it's Penny with Sheldon). Yeah, okay, I can agree that seeing as it's Leonard's dream and not taking place in their 'real lives', yeah, I can see that it wouldn't have a direct bearing on Sheldon's relationship with Amy. At least not right at first. The part I don't agree with..I don't think it's insignificant that he dreamed of her with Sheldon. The way the canon people are talking, it's irrelevant that it's Sheldon. It could have been anybody, and it just happened to be about him because Leonard needed to imagine it with someone he'd never think of as a threat. Or some such nonsense.

I think it's completely telling that it was Sheldon (from Leonard's perspective.) I think from day one Leonard has worried over whether Sheldon would be a threat to his pursuit of Penny. I mean, look at the pilot episode: Even after Leonard told her what he did for a living, she noticed and was drawn to Sheldon's board first. And when Leonard observed (as did we all) the chemistry and sudden attraction between the other two, he had to wedge himself in there and call her attention to his own. It was SO obviously a pathetic move. And yeah, she DID sit on the couch (in Sheldon's spot) and, patting the cushion beside her, asked him (in a flirty manner) to sit next to her. Sheldon, that is. This did not escape Leonard's notice, either. That's why I think he called 'dibs' on her, right from the get-go. He saw the possibility of Penny pursuing Sheldon, so, knowing if he staked the first claim--and counting on the fact that Sheldon was inexperienced and oblivious enough not to give it too much thought--he had to make sure he would be the only one in the running.

It's come up again and again in the series. Not so very often or obviously, but it does. Like, when Penny snuck out of Sheldon's room the night she went to him for advice for Age of Conan. When she saw Leonard in the hall: "Don't go in there, Sheldon's not wearing bottoms", and Leonard suddenly wide-awake: "Sheldon, you wanna catch me up..??" Or when he came home the morning after Sheldon had been locked out and had to spend the night at Penny's: "And you'll be happy to know I have a MUCH BETTER understanding of 'Friends with Benefits'.." Again with, "Sheldon, you wanna catch me up..???"

Etc, etc.

And add to the fact the time when Amy confided to Leonard her feelings of sadness and confusion over the closeness of Sheldon and Penny's relationship. As I recall Leonard was a bit taken aback, at first, at Amy's admission. But as she described their special kind of bond, yeah, it got Leonard thinking about it again, too.

Eh, I could go on and on here about Sheldon and Penny, and how much most everyone in the gang pretty much sees exactly what we all see. Even down to their own partners. But that would be preaching to the choir, right? I must point out, though..as far as this upcoming kiss between them.. Even some of the canons have admitted it will be nice to actually see Sheldon in a passionate clinch for once..(although they wish it had been with Amy). I have to say..watching him kiss Amy..particularly their first romantic kiss on the train...As I recall, he looked GREAT. But that's where the appealingness stopped. On her end..it was like he had his lips pressed against sagging wallpaper. But with Penny. I'm sorry if this sounds shallow. But like Gripe pointed out in an earlier post..Sheldon and Penny are the ones people fantasize about. Not Leonard and Amy. Sheldon and Penny..they're both really attractive people. So it goes without saying that it would be exciting to watch them together. But it's not just their looks. It's their connection, their chemistry. But again, I know..preaching to the choir!

I think it's telling somehow, that..well, we must keep in mind that all of this is fiction. It's writers coming up with stories and creating teleplays. Then the directors come in and block the scenes and so forth. So what we see is strategically planned out. It's not natural. It's not real people. It's not improv. So yeah, when Sheldon and Amy kiss..well, in rehearsal, the director probably told her (and it was probably in the stage directions in the script) "Mayim, can you make your face look like a flattened cabbage? That's a girl.. (Just so she happens to be natural at it..)

But with the upcoming Shenny smooch..it's a whole other story. They were directed to go at it with gusto. The both of them. Although, I think it'd be pretty damn near impossible for Kaley to look anything but good while kissing, you know? I can't imagine her looking like a wilted price of anything. But you get my point. Jim and Kaley are going to look hot because they were directed to. Make no mistake. And it's glaringly obvious to everyone (Shamy's included) that he's never been directed to look hot kissing Amy. I know it's in his character to be dull-looking with her. Whereas he's gonna steam up the place with Penny because he's "dream Sheldon" and therefore, can be out-of-character. But it's still very telling. Whether they want to go with the angle of it being harmless 'cos it's just Leonard's dream, the fact remains that they're doing it at all. Doing it HOT, at all, as well. They could have just as easily had Sheldon in character kissing Penny in the dream, right? You know, all dull and stoic like they have him with Amy. Why did they choose to make it no-holds-barred? Can anyone answer this? If TPTB are so in love with the idea of Sheldon and Amy, and love and want to please the Shamy's, as some seem to think, why would they have the audience see Sheldon and Penny so hot and heavy and just the opposite for Sheldon and Amy? Again, they didn't HAVE to go at that way in Leonard's dream, as it appears it's just being chalked up as him realizing how Penny must feel thinking of him with someone else. If that's the case, it was unnecessary to make it so passionate. And with everyone so convinced that Sheldon and Penny are like, BLECH, "brother and sister" (writers included), then why take SUCH a huge risk, to go to the extent of upsetting a good portion of their fanbases? The canons are speculating that it may just be for gratuitousness, but..I think there's other possibilities. I personally feel that..well, c'mon, they've known for years over there that there's been a huge interest in the idea of Sheldon and Penny together. They've been dangling it in our faces for years. And, in actuality, they're the ones who put the idea in our heads in the first place by writing them that way, over and over again. From day one. So..I have no idea where it's going to go, but I believe it's entirely possible that they might be trying to gauge if there's still an interest in the coupling. And this may be their (non-committal) way of finding out. They've got two years to go on this thing. And they're smart. And yeah, they see the comments floating around in the social media, of people getting sick of the established (dysfunctional) relationships. They see that most people hate 'married Howard' and are bored to death with him and Bernadette. They don't want to be boring for the next two years. You can't have all settled couples for the remainder of the series. It just doesn't work like that. So they're shaking things up. At least that's the way I see it.

Now if only there was some way they could break up Howard's marriage..it'd be all set! In Seinfeld..when they wanted to break up George and his fiancee Susan..remember how they did that? Heh heh..I know, it's awful for me to even THINK of such a thing now.. But Bernie's getting a little too annoying these days. And harpy. And downright nasty sometimes, now that I think of it. They've got her working in some biology lab somewhere, right? Would it be so wrong to have her come in contact with..no, I can't go there..can I go there? I mean, she's had close shaves before..the time she was in quarantine. It wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility.. Or maybe Amy's prince, Faisel (?) has a brother or something? Or maybe Faisel himself..those guys take multiple wives.. Huh.

OH! And I just had one last thought! If it's expected that Leonard and Penny are headed for marital bliss..yeah, they wouldn't suddenly show Sheldon and Penny having a hot make-out, right? I mean, if they want us to accept and root for a marriage, and then immediately have a dream sequence where the 'wife' is having such a hot time with his roommate..yeah..I really wouldn't call that a writers endorsement of a marriage. And now that I think of it..Leonard imagining Sheldon as being so..uncharacteristically uninhibited with Penny..that, too, reveals something of how Leonard may subconsciously view Sheldon. Like, with his conscious mind, he sees with his own eyes how stoic and stiff Sheldon is in showing affection to Amy. And he hasn't heard anything to the contrary about their private times. So he makes the understandable assumption that Sheldon is not passionate. But in his dreams..his subconscious mind tells him something else. That maybe the only reason Sheldon's not demonstrative with Amy is because..it's Amy. But with Penny..it's possible his roommate has another side. If I were Leonard, yeah, I'd begin looking a little closer at things in the future. Although..yeah, dysfunctional/denial is Leonard's M.O. So, yeah, even if he chooses to ignore his subconscious, and suppress it, we, the audience, know what he really thinks. Whether that's something TPTB want us to infer..well, that's debatable, I guess. My feeling, if they wrote it, it means something.


RE: What fresh hell is this? - S9 - Idle Miscreant - 08-26-2015

You know how irritating it was for everyone when they all drove to Big Sur in Season 4 for the conference, and they got stuck in the "Love Car" with Howard and Bernadette being all schmoopy?

I feel like we've been stuck in the fucking Love Car for 4 years.

I had high hopes for Season 9, (and I've certainly been fascinated with ONE surreal scene mentioned already) after the drooping ratings of Season Amy Farrah Fowler, and I'll not despair YET, but three episodes in and it's been a solid wall of relationships all the way.

It doesn't matter that now one of the couples is (temporarily) broken up, it's still being stuck in a claustrophobic commercial vehicle where the only "entertainment" is couples either cooing or SHOUTING (or cheating or manipulating or...) and the destination has been plotted and broadcast well in advance, and there's no detours along the way, just straight down the highway to Mortgage City.

I got into this car under false pretenses. I was lured in by its bright paint-job, flash-speed-stripes and carload of bright, unusual INDIVIDUALS. And it was delightful for four years! It was the goddamn Magical Mystery Tour. Now it's just a beige van trundling to the retirement home. LET ME OUT GODDAMMIT!

This far along the road, there is only one way to fix this heteronormative conservative roadtrip, and that's to split all the couples up permanently. Like that car in "Malcolm".

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Make the individuals strong IN THEMSELVES again. (and hey, maybe rob a bank. Like in Malcolm.)

Sheldon is so far from his Season 1-4 self that if he were a product you could sue the company for false advertising.

It would have been honourable if they'd left Sheldon out of the whole squalid and dull obsession mankind has with romance. Allowed ONE character to put intellect first. His passions first. Science first. It's a bloody insult to those who suffered for their work above all things. The people that Sheldon himself admired. Sure, let him have a fling, if you want to explore that side of his character, but don't let it become the FOCUS of his character!

They can alter the relentless plod to marriage, coitus, suburban mortgage and death (in whatever order), that they've put him on. They CAN. They're very clever. Wine But they WON'T.
Why, I don't know.

Confused


RE: What fresh hell is this? - S9 - Tuesday Pajamas - 08-27-2015

Now that post needs to be in the news feed! Wine Hats off!